Co-op blogosphere Twitter chat and fund
(Patrick Connolly made a nice summary of this idea in this comment)
- I made a list of 56 journalists who have written at least one article about coops like we decided to do in a Platform6 call with Dan Shipley.
I also know a bunch of amateur bloggers who write about coops that I haven't added there
Start a Twitter chat group where everyone who writes about coops can join. You can share in the chat group a tweet that includes your article about coops, others can choose to retweet it if they want. There are no rules, but we encourage a culture of reciprocity where those who retweet others are retweeted.
Start a Twitter account that retweets all of the tweets shared in the chat.
Start a Platform6 hosted Open Collective fund that anyone can donate to, that is given to a blogger that have shared their tweets in the chat. Those who have contributed to the fund can join a Loomio group that votes on how the funds are distributed between members of the co-op blogosphere chat group. They can choose to give the funds to someone who has not contributed to the fund if they want. Especially funding for people who have written their first article about coop could be encouraged. People are also free to join the fund even if they don't write blog articles about coops themselves. This could be called the Co-op Blogosphere Co-op Fund or something.
I would be willing to donate 25 pounds to the fund and hope Platform6 would match that.
We could see how much:
- Bloggers join the chat
- People contribute to the Open Collective fund
Here are two people stuff we could do with the funds:
geo.coop blog
- Already collects posts about coops across the internet in its blogs & tweets them.
- Fund it for 20$ (16.5 pounds) for retweeting tweets in the chat group.
Matt Noyes 10$ (8.2 pounds)
- Translates articles from Spanish to English.
- I already donate to him, but he could present brief of description of articles he would like to translate and put a Loomio poll which to donate to.
That would be around 25 pounds. We could then have the other 25 pounds given to the authors of articles shared in the chat group during the last month, voted by members of the Loomio group. Bloggers could set up their own Open Collective accounts where the money would be given. We could see how it works out in the first month with first 50 pounds. We can then decide if we want to stop, reduce or increase funding with membership vote in P6 Loomio group. If nothing else, 56 journalists who have written about coops would come aware of Platform6!
We could also create a protopage with all the chat group members blogs in there. I made a protopage for members of social coop with blogs some time ago, here is what it looks like.
This could be done within the first month or two and then see how it works out.
We wouldn't have to limit ourselves to Twitter either - we could start a similar chat group in Facebook with a Facebook page sharing every article shared in the chat. I just think Twitter is more suitable for the purpose and we should begin with that. It wouldn't have to be limited to articles either - it could include videos, podcasts, etc. People who write articles are just the first one we should start out with as there is much more of them.
We could expand this to many directions - we could do matched funding with Social Coop to pay for the Social Coop reading group to write book reviews. We could provide funding for those who improve Wikipedia content about coops. Etc.
Patrick Connolly Fri 30 Aug 2019 6:01PM
no prob! and yep, "social fabric" is just the casual term they use to refer to the [mostly real-world] web of social relationships :)
And this book is the full treatment of the topic:
Social Physics: How Good Ideas Spread—The Lessons from a New Science | PDF | ePub
The video I linked before is a high-level summary by the author himself, in the Talk at Google series. I would watch that first.
Jeff Regino Fri 30 Aug 2019 10:14AM
"social fabric" means relationships?
Can you recommend resources about social physics that you like?
Thanks for your Twitter list as well, @patcon !
Patrick Connolly Fri 30 Aug 2019 4:49AM
This looks like a whole lot of neat ideas! If I could so humbly offer, i've been told (it's a part of ORID framework too) that it's often a good practice to start with gathering a larger set of facts and feelings before moving into the ideation phase.
So I might take a step back and add:
- :mag: Social physics (SP) is a field that studies social networks.
- :mag: SP conceptualizes social dynamics as movements of ideas and memes through communities
- :mag: SP conceptualizes groups as organisms/machines for finding the best ideas for a set of given challenges.
- :mag: There's a great video that explains Social Phyics concepts.
- :mag: Social physics has a neat finding that suggests the way to get the best bang-for-buck of any incentive, is to never apply the incentive to the individual (as if we are solitary creatures), but to apply the incentive only to the social fabric; the space between people; the relationships (the smallest unit of human micro-culture)
- :mag: The reason for this mechanism is that apply incentives to people (nodes in network) simply distorts person's behavior within an unchanged social environment, while incentivizing relationships (edges) affects people together as a unit.
- :heart: I feel that we should try to gear system design toward very explicitly incentivizing relationships, not people in isolation.
- :mag: incentivizing relationships often involves creating interdependence between parties with existing social relationship.
- Ex: rewarding friend A and B for the actions of the other, so if friend B meets their daily fitness goals, friend A gets the reward and vice versa.
- Ex: rewarding friend C for referring friend D when friend D does valuable [also rewarded] work. (incentivizing invisibilized labour of network building)
- Ex: giving person E money, to help them offer a specific sort of gift to friend F.
- :heart: I feel that part of the system design might be creating/strengthening those "existing social relationships" on which incentives are then applied. (esp if prior relationships don't yet exist)
- :bulb: Let's talk about ways in which money could be used to incentivize relationships/connections rather than specific actions.
Anyhow, I'll leave it at that!
Leo Sammallahti Fri 30 Aug 2019 5:11AM
This looks much better! However it's good to add the details about how the fund would work:
- People who donate to the fund can vote on how the funds are used using 1-member-1-vote regardless of how much they have donated (minimum of 1$).
- The funds are given to a writer of an article that was written during the previous month. The writer does not have to be a member of the fund. A member of the fund does not have to be a writer.
- The writers could start their own Open Collective hosted by Platform6 to receive the funds (if they want to).
I'll add a link to your comment in my original post.
Patrick Connolly Fri 30 Aug 2019 4:27AM
I'm experimenting with a way to process complex online discussions, and so taking a moment to break-down your post, if that's not too odd to do :)
Inspired by the ORID facilitation tactic, these are the statements I'm seeing -- :mag: facts, :heart: feelings, and :bulb: ideas:
- :mag: There's a list of 56 journalists who've written about co-ops (1+ articles)
- #todo from platform6 call
- :mag: Leo can add more amateur bloggers
- :bulb: Let's start a Twitter group DM (chat group) for those who write about co-ops.
- :bulb: Let's start a Twitter account to RT chat shares.
- :mag: Platform6 (P6) is a host on the Open Collective (OC) crowdfund platform, which can host collectives.
- :bulb: Let's start a funding collective under the Platform6 host.
- :bulb: We could call it the "Co-op Blogosphere Co-op Fund"
- :bulb: We could call it something else
- :mag: Leo will contribute £25 (~USD$30)
- :heart: Leo feels Platform6 would be willing to contribute matching funds.
- :bulb: We could measure success by:
- how many bloggers/writer join chat
- how many people contribute to collective
- how much money is contributed to collective
- :bulb: writers would join OC
- :mag: Grassroots Economic Organizing (GEO) blogs about co-ops and RTs its own posts
- :bulb: Let's fund GEO USD$20/mo to RT from chat group
- :mag: Matt Noyes does Spanish-English translations.
- :mag: Leo already donates to Matt Noyes.
- :bulb: Let's fund Matt Noyes USD$10/mo
- :bulb: Matt could summarize candidate articles for translation and create a Loomio poll for contributors to prioritize
- :bulb: We could use the other USD$30 to fund writers in chat group who shared their posts there each month.
- :bulb: We could run a pilot for a month or two.
- :bulb: After pilot, we could vote in P6 Loomio, whether to: halt, increase, or decrease funding
- :heart: At minimum, I feel this initiative would raise awareness of P6 amongst writer. (Leo)
- :bulb: We could create a protopage of writers blogs (demo)
- :bulb: We could expand sharing from Twitter to Facebook page
- :heart: I feel that Twitter is a better place to start (Leo)
- :heart: I feel that shares could be more than articles, but also videos, podcasts, etc. (Leo)
- :heart: I feel we should start with writers (Leo)
- :heart: I feel we can expand from writers to any creators (Leo)
- :bulb: We could expand to partner with Social.Coop reading group, to pay people to write book reviews of chosen books.
- :bulb: We could fund people to improve co-op content on Wikipedia.
Leo Sammallahti Fri 30 Aug 2019 5:09AM
"As in, a crowd decides from his suggested list which ones he gets paid to translate?"
Yes exactly.
Leo Sammallahti Fri 30 Aug 2019 5:06AM
Yes, sorry for the messyness of the text I should've been more patient and articulate it better but I wanted to get it out here asap :D!
Twitter enables users to start a chat with each other and invite people to chat groups.
We would start with 50 pounds for the first month or two (25 pounds for me, 25 pounds from Platform6), and see how it goes. We could then decide if it's worth putting more, less or no money at all in the future.
Patrick Connolly Fri 30 Aug 2019 4:24AM
Neat! Thanks for starting this convo, Leo!
Processing what you wrote and need some clarifications before speaking to substance:
Start a Twitter chat group
What do you mean by a "Twitter chat group"?
I would be willing to donate 25 pounds
these amounts are all per month, I'm assuming?
he could present brief of description of articles he would like to translate and put a Loomio poll which to donate to
As in, a crowd decides from his suggested list which ones he gets paid to translate?
Mark Simmonds (Co-op Culture) · Fri 30 Aug 2019 7:09AM
Can you say more about the chat group @leosammallahti is it just a rolling conversation? Would you need to add people as initiator rather than people applying to join?