Group coordinators and subgroups
Robert Guthrie
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I want to start a discussion around the behaviour for group coordinators and subgroups.
Currently, we're seeing people experiencing a problem: Any member of a group can start a subgroup, but the group coordinators don't have coordinator rights in the subgroup by default. We get many support requests from confused group coordinators asking why they can't do admin actions in threads which are in subgroups of their group.
I'm going to propose some changes to discuss:
- When a subgroup is created, the admins of the parent group are added to the subgroup (as coordinators) by default.
- If you are the admin of a group, you can always see, join, and then make yourself a coordinator of subgroups in your group.
The first suggestion could be a setting on the parent group. IE: By default, coordinators are added to new subgroups, but you can turn that off.
The second is a change in permissions that would not be optional.. IE: Coordinators can see all subgroups, and can always join and coordinator them if they wish.
What do you think about these ideas?
Robert Guthrie Mon 23 Dec 2019 8:14PM
yes, that' actually the right answer. you should only see a secret subgroup your're not a part of, if somone invites you to a thread that is part of one. When do you see one?
john gieryn Mon 23 Dec 2019 8:34PM
Testing the Demo* (parent) group yesterday as an admin, I was able to see its Secret subgroups I was not part of (I started investigating as I thought they were closed but got confused that they didn't have a "Join group" button)
*You're a member
john gieryn Mon 23 Dec 2019 8:37PM
I invited you into one of the secret subgroups. Troubleshoot and Storytelling Guild are also secret ones, for you to test with
Robert Guthrie Mon 23 Dec 2019 9:00PM
troubleshoot is visible to parent members. storytelling guild does not show up unless I receive a link to it. I'm not sure I see a bug. Can you name a private group I should not be able to see?
john gieryn Mon 23 Dec 2019 9:29PM
john gieryn Mon 23 Dec 2019 9:30PM
AFAIK there is no setting for Secret subgroups to be visible to parent members:
[screenshot of Troubleshoot's settings]
Robert Guthrie Mon 23 Dec 2019 10:00PM
what if you refresh dashboard rather than the troubleshoot url, does it still appear in sidebar? (thanks!)
john gieryn Mon 23 Dec 2019 11:04PM
hard refresh from /dashboard and yea i still see it in sidebar
john gieryn · Mon 23 Dec 2019 8:00PM
Alternatively, obviously (and as I believe you've considered), maybe it's better for them to not see secret subgroups they're not part of