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Wed 8 Nov 2017 2:03PM

Transparency In The Internet Party

M Martyn Public Seen by 110

transparency
tranˈspar(ə)nsi,trɑːnˈspar(ə)nsi,tranˈspɛːr(ə)nsi,trɑːnˈspɛːr(ə)nsi/
noun
noun: transparency; plural noun: transparencies

1.
the condition of being transparent.
"the transparency of their predatory motives"
frankness, openness, candidness, honesty, directness, forthrightness, unreservedness, plain-spokenness, straightness, straightforwardness, ingenuousness, innocence, guilelessness, simplicity
"the report said that the country's economic management lacked transparency"
antonyms:   opacity, cloudiness, obscurity, ambiguity, cunning, secrecy
2.
a positive transparent photograph printed on transparent plastic or glass, able to be viewed using a slide projector.
"colour transparencies of the Grand Canyon"
synonyms:   slide, diapositive; 

Above is the definition of Transparency from Google. This thread is about how we can implement Transparency within the Internet Party, both in our internal and external processes.

One of the ways I think we can implement Transparency is to publish all of our documentation as PDFs with regards to the internal workings of the Internet Party on our website. Here I'm talking about things like our Health & Safety procedures, Sexual Harrassment policy, our Induction booklet and other such documents.

FL

Fred Look Tue 5 Dec 2017 9:05AM

We have no party (in terms of the electoral act) this the direct result of misconduct of leadership. The current exec has no mandate . nor does any person to act as leader at this time. The only way forward is a proper INFORMED discussion by the membership. and a direction from members as to how to go forward. To be blunt i think that the stream of distortions and misinformation from Suzie is going to make that impossible. But if you wish an SGM i will endorse that path.

MM

Miriam Mallinder Tue 5 Dec 2017 9:16AM

SGM? Does that stand for Special General Meeting Fred?

DG

Daymond Goulder-Horobin Tue 5 Dec 2017 10:54AM

I feel like there is a disconnect between what people on this forum think is happening and what is actually happening. Firstly a lot of things are happening, however this is mostly being discussed on Discord as opposed to Loomio. For instance we are now a member of Pirate Parties International, and we are still doing live-streams though we are going to be slowing down during Christmas. The party leader is out in full force still working for the party and STILL backed by KDC to the fullest up to the 2020 election.

In other words things are actually still happening in contraction to what people think is happening. Though I will say that having our 500 members by April is a priority for staying registered and something I will aim to achieve through policy and live-streams.

I'm not going to participate in this drama between some of the prev exec UNLESS there is clear and proven acts of Libel going on. If acts of Libel are detected I will not hesitate to ban you, it is fine to have an opinion and and observation but I will not tolerate any acts of lying and slander on this forum anymore. Quite Frankly it is just getting old and I don't want this to continue when we actually do get more members back into action.

FL

Fred Look Tue 5 Dec 2017 11:56AM

Well i do wish to discuss here why Suzie having taken the leadership in Feburary refused to declare that for many months, why she did not launch in good time for membership drive pre AGM as agreed. I do wish to discuss if it was actually necessary to lock up website development for that same critical period. I do want to discuss the refusal to respect secretarys financial controls and fallout from that. And i would like to have that discussion without libel or stream of blame on myself and the mandated exec. I state now we had a plan and it was a good one and Suzie agreed to it when she took up the leadership. Having had that plan overset resulting in the resignation of the elected exec members. I do feel it is important the members (remaining) and future are able to access a factual account of 2017 and how those events brought the party to this point. I reject that either the website architecture or financiial architecture was reason to abandon the plan to begin membership recruitment in Feburary as agreed. That projection to my mind is simply a means to avoid accepting responsibility and i dont believe that was the reason for what happened .. I was there! both website and financial arrangements were appropriate at the time and plans to move them forward in hand. membership recruitment was key in both cases. with a leader appointed but refusing to declare all plans stalled ... meanwhile the consensus and processes of exec were destroyed leading to resignation of its members. It is my firm belief that plan A would have us better placed now and in my opinion the means employed to derail that plan was improper.

TH

Tane Harre Wed 6 Dec 2017 6:03AM

Then please write a factual account, Fred. Get it signed off by the other exec at the time and all good. And then post it. Currently I know little bits and pieces but haven't seen a full time line with evidence. If Suzie has done something wrong or illegal then bring it out for all to see. And yes, do it in an official fashion.

Notify the electoral commission if you believe there has been a definite breach of the act....maybe after giving the exec a chance to rectify the situation?

Do the SGM! (although you can't call it, only the exec or convener can...who the hell is the convener).

Currently I am waiting for 10.10.

But what ever we do lets do it quickly, efficiently, officially, legally and finally. And then lets move on to what we are supposed to be doing. Not like last time.

SD

Suzie Dawson Thu 7 Dec 2017 3:33AM

No Miriam, I did not pull the thread, I don't even know how to pull the thread. That is false allegation #1252342 about me on your part.

Fred knows full well the reason I didn't announce my leadership was because I discovered that under his watch, the business entity/incorporated society and bank account had all lapsed/been cancelled. There was no website, no marketing collateral, nothing whatsoever in place to support my leadership or the campaign, so I went about building all those things with others until we felt in a strong enough position to make the announcement.

Daymond is completely right that things are moving ahead in good directions on all fronts but Miriam and Fred - both of whom RESIGNED from the Party (Fred in fact resigned not once, but over and over again, at least 3 times by my count this year alone) continue to attack us mercilessly on Loomio without any pause.

We have a full event schedule for next year, an international network at play, Kim is fully engaged in what we are doing, and we will meet the 500-member requirement by next April (which we only need to do as a result of Fred & co's axing of our 3-year membership requirement) just fine.

Fred's claim that we are in breach with electoral commission is COMPLETELY FALSE - we have met all legal requirements surrounding the campaign and election every step of the way.

Resigned members who are doing nothing other than causing trouble, telling lies and smearing the people who have been here cleaning up the mess they left the Party, need to go on their merry way, and if that requires them being banned then so be it. There is a three year history of Fred arbitrarily banning people in Loomio who disagreed with him. We have refrained from taking that step but if the abuse continues the two of you will simply be removed from this platform out of respect for everyone else.

MM

Miriam Mallinder Thu 7 Dec 2017 3:46AM

OK, then I would like to re-phrase my question. Where did that thread go? As leader of the Party I am guessing you would know.

Following on from that I support Fred's request "I would like to have that discussion without libel or stream of blame on myself and the mandated exec"

And I agree with Tane's intervention.

SD

Suzie Dawson Thu 7 Dec 2017 3:56AM

Miriam, you and Fred resigned from the Party. I cannot think of a single positive contribution from either of you since your departures. In your case, I can't think of one all year. People who care about this party work for it. They get stuff done. They accomplish tasks. They progress it in some way. You have done nothing but harp on at us and drag us down and backwards for the entire year. Kim has made his support of me very clear. The exec that has been in place since your departure has also. It is time for you to leave us in peace.

I do not know 'where' Loomio threads have gone or anything about how to admin Loomio but i will call for a vote in exec to have resigned members who tell lies about and smear Party execs to be banned from Loomio because I think it is ridiculous that we allow this time-wasting and highschool-like behaviour to continue endlessly.

DG

Daymond Goulder-Horobin Thu 7 Dec 2017 6:29AM

Jo pulled the thread I think, for reference.

MM

Miriam Mallinder Thu 7 Dec 2017 7:48AM

apparently not Daymond?

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