NZ Shootings

A little late, a little brief.

In regards to Jacinda Adern's call, I think perhaps she should look a little closer to home (eg; our government).

In regards to the classification, the prison terms are insane and hiding the manifesto (by what I have heard of it) is hiding the illness in this guys head. Is it really so dangerous to read an idea?

I have no idea if the firearms law was changed legally. I do remember the government was under fire in the current act for breaching the law by making licencing authorities to far away (I think).

The censoring and blocking of websites and free communication, and attacking of alternative views with threats of extended incarceration and huge fines could be considered having a greater effect on peoples lives depending on what ranking you give your morals. For instance killing people is bad but OK to keep your freedom.

I don't think it is the justice warriors. They are just being used for someone elses agenda.

In regards to the other ideas, this was as far as I am aware a single person. Not a business. As for fear, it is a great motivator. Fear of the other appears to be built into us. I don't believe I would be safer with a gun. I mean, what am I supposed to do? Carry it around loaded and ready in case of attack?

The real players do have executive immunity and write the laws & use the laws and break the laws....and then rewrite them to shelter themselves.

It would be nice to see change at the top but with consideration to the security services it will probably be used in an effort to gain more power, not lose power. It does look like democracy will lose out to populism.

The censoring of the Internet was very interesting as it seemed to be the government doing it and then the providers came out saying they did it as their community had requested it. We don't appear to have a free and fair Internet that is protected by law. Perhaps it is a job for Internet Party NZ?

So these are the pages where political policy is incubated(?) from listening to thought out ideas & questions & alternative expressions & possible future paths? (Its not Twitter or Facebook)

Democracy has protocols, which means dissenting voices at least get heard.
Dictatorship does not observe protocols and censors dissent… using ever more powerful tools ...
So what just happened?
Check, tick check… Yep and people are cheering it on…
Are the ‘thinker and policy makers’ of the internet party also ‘cheering it on’?
Why am I, the only one bringing this up? I mean; am I wrong about something?
Was this not, a massive attack against democracy,, privacy & freedom?

Both the cause and solution…seems… obvious. (?)
You psych test all public servants to see if they are worthy to hold the position of trust.
It would get rid of all the wars and corruption. Everything else would follow…
I believe that it is ‘that simple’. [The best ideas are always simple]
I fade away singing “I dream a dream…”

In some ways they are supposed to be the pages where policy is incubated but as there is no Policy Committee (as far as I am aware) it appears anything said here will incubate for a long time.

Internet Party NZ is hamstrung by a number of problems in my view. The lack of New Zealand members (20?), the current executive, a focus on Julian Assange over New Zealand, disregarding the Party Constitution, etc....All these add up to nothing happening. Look at the amount of threads on Loomio since the last election, the amount of emails sent out by the exec, etc...basically it is dead in the water at the moment and under the current executive this situation will probably continue.

So no, you aren't the only person bring it up. The other people just don't where or how to bring it up.

To make things worse, it looks like Loomio is now dead as when I try an create a new thread it says,
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Confess: I didn’t really think I was the only one to notice; it was a stir to try to get others to put forward a view, any view. I was … lonely posting… ; )
Even though the site / party are semi static, these pages and ideas and views can still help those that follow.

I’m a bit of a dreamer and think that the internet party has ‘so much potential’. (Its also about timing)
I see the world changing. Mass communication is potentially a revolution tool.
The war for hearts minds BELIEFS is already full on.
I ‘see / feel’ ways, where the I.P. could be leading the way in such a revolution; but it has to stand for something ‘like democracy / privacy, personal responsibility etc.’ (Big and LOUD)

It could never lead if it was wishy washy, or if decisions are made for political expediency or acted anything like a normal party...

2: question of individual or business.
He didn’t initiate all his own ideas…
A Christian child didn’t spontaneously imagine up Christianity, nor did a Muslim child conceive Islam.
These and other beliefs are brought to them by interest groups within society.
They provide subtle backing and training and an echo chamber.

Lets be real here; the term fake news: When you look…its not the small players that are causing the unrest or telling the big porkers, It is the big players and govts behind it. (Often Taxpayer money)
So yes he was a mental individual, that had been programmed by… (Maybe?)
With censorship, we cannot know either way.
The value of any official statement, becomes one of “FAITH”???
This isn’t the place for conspiracy theories, but I have so many questions about this crime that affected so many peoples lives. We all do, don’t we? So censorship?
I don’t like the answer “its better not to know” or “we’ll lock you up if you have information we don’t like”.
The world can only get better with better government.